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Ford speed density tuning. We can do either (as well as Alpha-N, and some fancy proprietary blended modes like ITB Mode) Jan 25, 2021 · HP Tuners Ford Mod Motor Training Course Part 15: Speed Density Tuning walks you through how the speed density tables function in the Ford PCM programming. The CCF Speed Density feature is a powerful yet easy-to-use solution that brings simplified Speed Density tuning into the Ford engine control unit (ECU) and can be used to entirely replace the existing factory SD models. Aug 30, 2011 · There is aftermarket tuning available for speed density (SCT and Tweecer), but there are very few that understand how to tune it well. We learn how to use logged HP Tuners Ford Gen 2 Coyote Training Part 27: Speed Density Tuning (F150) breaks down how to properly calibrate the speed density tables associated with the VCT scheduling mapped points. Dec 9, 2016 · In contrast, a typical 1980s speed density system estimated ­intake airflow by using ­inputs from the intake ­manifold absolute pressure/barometric (MAP/Baro), throttle position (TP), engine coolant temperature (ECT), intake air (IAT) and engine speed (RPM) sensors. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message May 23, 2016 · Thread: Ford Speed Density tuning on EcoBoost Thread Tools. Apr 26, 2007 · 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - MAF vs Speed Density - Okay I know that is a really noobie question but I have never understood the difference here between the MAF and Speed Density. Seems weird seeing they opened preorder for a coyote specific tuning book. For instance if your load correction is lets say 0. 4 and . at cold start ,then it idles at 800rpm all day. They said it?s the hardest car and combo to tune (coyote, PD blower, and Big TB) and he was Not able to tune one to run right (To paraphrase). 2 and you are using mapped points 3 and 4, with 3 being 40% and 4 being 60% i would multiply that . 5" exhaust. Speed Density. Normally, the Mass air flow sensor (MAF) is used to do this job but on setups that draw in large amounts of air, or setups that have things like a rotated turbo-charger or a front mounted intercoolers, using the MAF sensor to calculate air flow isn't always an ideal Jan 21, 2015 · The speed density functions do parallel the virtual VE of the GM, though not quite as complicated from the perspective that the GM version is a higher order polynomial whereas the Ford version is, at this point in time, only quadratic. Speed density systems count on air pressure (as opposed to air flow) and engine speed (rpm) to compute fuel delivery. 4 version. It is probably too long and wordy and I would appreciate feedback (particularly by tuners who have worked in this area) but hope it gives some information to other people trying to understand how it works. Our systems support EITHER Speed Density OR Mass Air Flow/MAF approaches to tuning your engine. So as you add performance to your car, you can easily match the EEC to your combo. No matter what i do i can not get it to run on anything but one line on the slope table which at the moment is 0 inhg. GapRider. I made the decision, after looking at the limited amount of tuning data on the 3. Nov 6, 2021 · 3250 and lower, you are trying to define a strange VE that doesnt really fit with a quadratic line due to lag. Also known as a manifold absolute pressure (MAP) system, the ECU uses air pressure data and engine rpm to determine engine airflow which, in turn, is used to calculate how much fuel to send into the cylinders. One in particular that I am a little confused about it the relocation of the air intake temperature sensor from the manifold to the air box. Load Control Methods of calculating, measuring and determining Load: Speed-Density, Mass Air Flow and Alpha-N By: Brian Barnhill - Tuner Tools, LLC Load is essentially a measurement of airflow since, as discussed in our Volumetric Efficiency article an engine is essentially a large air pump. The truck has 36 tires and 4. 0/302, 5. Jump to Latest A forum community dedicated to all Ford Bronco owners and enthusiasts including the new 2021 Ford Bronco. 10-05-2019 #6 mattlinke What is speed density? Speed density is nothing more than a different method to calculate the amount of air entering the engine. 01:10: Let's jump into our software and we'll see how the speed density subsystem looks. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Jul 1, 2006 · Read about how you can understand and tune your Ford EFI System - Muscle Mustang & Fast Fords. 00:00 - When it comes to supplying the correct amount of fuel, the ECU needs to first know what mass of air is entering the engine. on first glance it seems that its true speed density however ford uses MAF in order to find actual MAF and uses speed density calculations to find the corresponding MAP, it also has upper limit for mass air flow defined by finding the roots of the quadratic equation Aug 28, 2010 · Pre- 1987 / Classic Corner - Speed Density EFI Tuning - I have an '86 f150 5. Since airflow determines I saw, Roush enabled only MP 14-26 in theyr's tune. Speed Density, and Mass Air. I was thinking about getting a crate motor, with a carb that was like 426 hp, but it seemed like a c6 would have to come with it, and I don't want to lose overdrive. 6, then apply the weighted correction into each mapped point. *excludes 2015+ trucks modified past minor bolt-ons *the coyote course does not explain speed density tuning Tuning Coyot Oct 4, 2016 · 2007 Ford Mustang GT/CS: RGR 322 3v - JPC Intake - Vortech YSi-B - Magnum T56 XL - Built 8. Apr 27, 2018 · Speed Density. Ford Speed Density QUAD added From Airmass. Show Printable Version; 05-23-2016 #21. 7. The basic level (Slope tuning) is probably enough for most tuners to get their vehicles set up to a high specification. In the 1990s, the 5. Tuning the Ford 351W and best 351W performance parts. As you will see in the tune file i have 0 in the map and the car will run fine. So I was dropped off a 2017 F150 single cab with a 30" tire, 4. 8/351W) - Speed density cam options - I have a 1988 tube chassis Bronco with a stock 302 EFI engine. 0 with the Speed Density type efi and i know it's hit or mis as far as increasing air flow in and out of the engine. Note: This guide covers CCF Speed Density for the Ford EcoBoost engines. Keep in mind this was in 2015, so I suspect there is considerably more info available today. those from the I6 EA - AU Falcon. Airaid, 2nd Gen Intake, Grid Heater Delete, D-Tech 62/65/12, Magnaflow. Speed density is the older but more sophisticated method of fuel delivery. hptuners. Compare the Value-Basic Engine Fundamentals - $99-1 Year Tech Support - $299-Engine Tuning Printed and Online Course- $749-Course Downloads Includes stock files, examples, templates, graphs, charts and more, to help kick start your learning journey. This thread has nothing to do with Mass Air Flow(MAF), and definitely nothing to do with MAF swaps. Jul 10, 2002 · Tuning a speed density system with mods Windsor Power Tuning a speed density system with mods - MustangWorks. The Coyote Cookbook is the only advanced tuning resource for 2011-2015 Ford V8 Mustangs and other vehicles with the Coyote engine. First thing I noticed was no MAF transfer curve. It goes in-depth by including tuning specific changes for GEN I (2011-2014), GEN II (2015-2017) and GEN III (2018+) Coyote. It is mainly for off road use. 8 - Full Suspension 2008 Ford Shelby GT500: VMP Gen 2 - ATI 15% - SCJ TB - Full Bassani Exhaust - Full Suspension - Upper Pulley - Meth Injection - JLT 127mm From what I understand, figuring out the math for speed density or the speed density editor will help me tune VCT correctly for removing IMRC and adding the super charger. Checked the intake and sure enough these trucks do not have a MAF. 01:14 Feb 4, 2016 · Here we will go over a few of the basic details and terminologies that are specific to Ford before we begin tuning on a COBB Accessport equipped Ford Ecoboost vehicle. In 2007, limited Ford support was added, but it only covered Mustang, F-150, and Australian Falcons. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Speed Density Tuning$79. Jul 10, 2022 · Trying to tune a ba xr8 with cams that i have applied the speed density via map COS. Show Printable Version; 03-13-2016 #1. It can be helpful for any other 2011+ vehicles that utilize HDFX (does not cover speed density or Eco-Boost). 5 eco on the HPT forum, to go with a 5 Star tune. It is one of the largest book published by La Feb 26, 2023 · Speed density tuned using the MAS. Motors with big cams and/or more cubes tend to have idling/fueling problems because the frequency based Ford MAP sensors get fuzzy when the vacuum jumps around, and the speed density ECU's do not respond well to May 25, 2010 · Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. Speed density has been the only way to tune my car to run well. Oct 7, 2019 · When the company started in 2003, HP Tuners only supported GM applications. 24lb injectors and now this truck is in major need of a tune, its wayyyyyyy rich. 17-20 F150 EcoBoost & Raptor; Mustang. I work often with KenneBell SC. Join the Nov 5, 2017 · Available in the latest VCM Suite beta is a new calculator for the Ford Speed Density model. These examples have MAF sensors under the hood thanks to advancements in tuning software and hardware alike. in some cases, the computer will lean out the air fuel mixture, and in others it works just fine. The TwEECer is an adapter which connects to the J3 service port of the 1984-2004 Ford EEC PCM, giving you the ability to modify parameters in the calibration data with parameters that match the modifications which you have made to your engine combo. 00 This course looks at the Ford Speed Density model that originated on the Australian vehicles and has evolved into the highly flexible model used in today’s EcoBoost systems and Coyote trucks. GM L4, I5, I6 Tuning - Engine; GM L4, I5, I6 Tuning - Transmission; GM L4, I5, I6 Tuning - Miscellaneous; Ford Tuning. V8s use MAF tuning, and are covered in another guide available at hi guys, some may know me from GM tuning but sure not ford, I have studying the ford mustang strategy for the past few days. Apr 18, 2022 · Introduction. and when and why you might want to make the switch to speed density HP Tuners Ford Gen 1 Coyote Training (2011-2014) Course Part 23 illustrates how to properly dial in the speed density mapping using an external map sensor wi May 30, 2016 · Thread: Ford Speed Density tuning on EcoBoost Thread Tools. Jan 28, 2008 · Speed Density Tuning options. Apr 18, 2022 · The CCF Speed Density feature is a powerful yet easy-to-use solution that brings simplified Speed Density tuning into the Ford engine control unit (ECU) and can be used to entirely replace the existing factory SD models. So for this reason the Ford ECU uses a similar principle to late model GM ECUs where the speed density system is calculated using some pretty complex quadratic equations. This guide aims to provide tuning tips and method for tuning Speed Density (SD) or MAP sensor based EECs, i. xlsx Feb 18, 2010 · I've still got speed density as well, I recently got done doing GT40 iron heads,cobra intake,65mm tb,crane cam,and jba headers + 2. I would trust 3500 RPM and up with the exception of 6500 RPM, data points up there is all over the place. metroplex. 56 gears. Even contacting the tuning school for tech support was not helpful. Our preference in practice when we’re tuning MOST vehicles, yes, is Speed Density. I have taken some screen shots of how you can setup the tune to run in speed density on just about any P01 computer and P59 computer. 2 * . This calculator is quite sophisticated, so an understanding of the process is vital to help get the best results from the calculator. e. i'm planning on putting new Follow us on Facebook and Instagram @hptuners Visit us at https://www. Feb 25, 2022 · Computer Chips & Tuners - Speed Density Tuning (1987-1996 EEC-IV) - Purpose of this post is to start the discussion with how to tune Speed Density(SD) in our 1987-1996 trucks. HP Tuners Ford Gen 2 Coyote Training Part 26: Speed Density Tuning (Mustang) breaks down how to properly calibrate the speed density tables within a Mustang Dec 11, 2018 · Speed density systems can handle much higher rev counts than ordinary MAF sensors, which tend to go on holiday when you get up to the realms of 8000-9000rpm – although other variables apply here. 10 gears and a JLT intake. 8 L, 351W was switched from speed density to MAF, which resulted in performance increases. com : Ford Forums Featuring a large, friendly Mustang enthusaist community with message forums, chat, classified ads, a performance analyzer, and the ability to post your own Mustang on our User's Rides section and upload your own Oct 3, 2013 · After weighing the options it seems like sticking to speed density, and retaining the E4OD will be the best set up. The alpha-N is the simplest system, but the least precise for part This tuning course is entirely focused on the powerful Coyote platform. Explore HP Tuners' Ford tuning support with credit and licensing information on all supported Ford vehicles, like the F-Series trucks and more. It has been years in development. Jul 18, 2007 · I have read some previous posts conserning mods to the 460 efi speed density motors. Ford EEC-V Tuning; Ford Tuning - Engine, Gas (Non Ecoboost, US) Ford Tuning - Engine, Gas (Non Ecoboost, Australia) Ford Tuning - Engine, Gas (Ecoboost) Ford Tuning - Engine, Diesel; Ford Tuning - Transmission; Ford Tuning Mar 7, 2023 · A lot of OE's are also going back to Speed Density after decades of Mass Air. That being 4. Overview. 0+ and then specifically being the 4. Mar 13, 2016 · Thread: Ford Speed Density tuning on EcoBoost Thread Tools. This is also known as Speed Density. Feb 4, 2016 · Here we will go over a few of the basic details and terminologies that are specific to Ford before we begin tuning on a COBB Accessport equipped Ford Ecoboost vehicle. Feb 25, 2022 · Purpose of this post is to start the discussion with how to tune Speed Density(SD) in our 1987-1996 trucks. Since a speed density system has so many parts that can fail or drift out of Ford Speed Density Calculation now supported in version 3. but with the roush calculated speed density values the supercharger is much more drivable than any VMP or other tuners version. May 26, 2021 · From the characteristic low-down grumble of an EJ25 Subaru boxer to Ford's modern Mustangs, all the way up to Nissan's supercar killer, the GTR. Jun 21, 2019 · In this thread will be just the basics for setting up a speed density tuning using the most recent software HP Tunes has out. 16-18 Focus RS; 13-18 Focus ST; F150. com/ for more informationWelcome to the sixth session of HP Tuners Live Traini Apr 22, 2022 · Ford. Oct 4, 2021 · [QUOTE=Steven@HPTuners;504979]Available in the latest VCM Suite beta is a new calculator for the Ford Speed Density model. any ideas suggestions There may be a more 'correct' way to do this, but my method is weighting the correction factor the same as the mapped point. Jul 26, 2009 · so im working on a truck for a guy same make and model as mine, 92 f150 302 aod efi speed density we installed heads, and a bigger cam ford racing e303. Mar 1, 2017 · A quick refresh on the goal of Speed Density: convert various sensor measurements of air pressure, temperature, and other conditions to get an estimation of the amount of air in a cylinder when combustion occurs. Feb 5, 2019 · In this guide we will explain the basics of Speed Density (SD) tuning and then go further into detail. I understand I am limited to camshaft options due to it having a speed density sensor as opposed to mass Aug 12, 2014 · This was one of the things I kept trying to find on the net but no one seems to have written it up so I have done a write up on Ford Speed Density. 9 Cummins QC 4x4. Show Printable Version; 05-30-2016 #41. With that cam it does surge,but only for about 2-3 min. I have used HPT for GM MAF tuned engines for quite a few years. ZF6HP26 6-Speed Jul 23, 2017 · The Airmass values are very low and not very diverse for the manifold pressure values so its coming up with strange values, but playing with airmass and inHg you can see where the linear and where the Quadratic work out better and why Ford went to the Quadratic speed density. x beta of VCM Editor! In Ford applications from 2011+ using the Copperhead, E-Sys, TC-1767,. Focus. 2011 Camaro 2SS Convertible L99 Bone Stock for now 2003 Dodge 2500 5. 00:07: We've discussed the common techniques the ECU uses for measuring airflow and these can be broken down into measuring the airflow directly by way of the mass airflow sensor or calculating airflow using the speed density principle. MAP Based – These vehicles use a MAP based airflow system. For example, the 2010-2018 Ford Taurus was a Mass Air car as you would expect, but in 2019, ford ditched the MAF and went back to Speed Density. ccfzwh nwltmu meatxq aqolu atgd gezi fvzldx gri vgbsc poum